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Old 09-01-02, 08:07 PM
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He leads his troops deep into enemy ground, and releases the trigger. He burns his boats and destroys the cooking pots.
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Old 11-11-02, 09:37 AM
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He leads his troops deep into enemy ground, and releases the trigger. He burns his boats and destroys the cooking pots.
Once the wise strategist usually moves into the opposition's territory.
He does not allow the opposition any opportunities of combine forces with his allies. The macro trigger he release(s) could be a series of "fire attacks" that must be decisive in the TKO of the adversary

He shapes his team to fight in a "no-retreat" state of mind.
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Old 12-08-02, 08:11 AM
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Lead your troops into enemy territory and destroy what means you have to survive and that will force your forces to use what resources the enemy has.

A VERY risky thing to do.

Gonzo does not agree with this at all

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Sun Tzu said, "He leads his troops deep into enemy ground, and releases the trigger. He burns his boats and destroys the cooking pots."

The general knows that in war losing is not an option. She will put her troops into a “survive or die” situation and trusts that they will persevere.
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This aphorism brings to mind a scene from the 1990 film "The Hunt for Red October" starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin. For those who have not seen this film (there might be some younger "Sonshiites" out there who haven't), it is a film based on the Tom Clancy novel about a Soviet captain of a nuclear submarine who, along with his officer staff, is attempting to defect to the United States.

There is a scene in the first half of the film where the submarine captain Ramius is being confronted by his officers. They are beginning to have doubts as to whether they can pull off their defection successfully, and they now seem to reluctant to commit themselves fully. It is then that Captain Ramius tells his officers that, shortly before the Red October submarine had set off, he had sent a letter to the central naval command informing them of his intentions to defect.

Ramius's officers are understandably horrified, and one of them asks why he did that.

Ramius's answers, "When he reached the New World, Cortez burned his ships. As a result, his men were well-motivated."

Ramius has effectively put himself and his men in a situation where there is no option now except to go through with their defection attempt.

If you were in Ramius's place, would you have done the same thing?
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This really forces ones team for success. Is it necessary...I don't know. It would motivate me but would I hold a grudge afterwards.

Is the condition of certain death the necessary ingrediant for success in war condition operations.

It's certainly a lot to think about.

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He leads his troops deep into enemy ground, and releases the trigger. He burns his boats and destroys the cooking pots.

For me this passage is a stroke of genius. Following ST's train of thought up to this verse, the last thing our enemy would consider from us is this type temerity. Granted it is gutsy. One's execution, precision and timing would have to be near perfection. But the AoW is not for amateurs.

By keeping our plans secret, our opponent is unaware that we have trespassed into the heart of his territory. Taking them off guard we release our plan of action at the appropriate moment and thus take advnatage of their disorganization.
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"He burns his boats and destroys the cooking pots"
This line is not in the original script of Sun Tzu.
It's a historical event happened three hundred years after Sun Tzu.
Xiang Yu is leading an army in a what Sun Tzu called deadly ground, so he burns his boats and destroys the cooking pots.
And he let every soldier held only three days of supply.
And then he lead an all out attack against the formidable army of Qin.
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Default The Point of No Return

Often in life we come to a decision that could be defined as a point of no return. That point is so frightening to some people that they spend their entire life trying to never “burn their bridges behind them.”

Only a great individual, self-assured and without doubt, makes an event which would not necessarily be one, a point of no return.

It may seem reckless to some, but when you have no alternative but to succeed, you almost surely will.
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The strategist leads his troops down one road of no return.

When flight is not an option, one will fight without being forced. When retreat is not an option, one will not retire and will advance without being pressed. When defection is not an option, one will not turn and will follow without being led. When dissent is not an option one will obey without being disciplined.

When there is one option that will be the option taken. Sometimes the firm hand will take us along the surest path.
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He leads his troops deep into enemy ground, and releases the trigger. He burns his boats and destroys the cooking pots.
The general there's only one direction forward is no turning back and he will shut down any temptation or invitation that will detract the men from going forward.
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He leads his troops deep into enemy ground, and releases the trigger. He burns his boats and destroys the cooking pots.
This verse is a spell to cast the death ground

The death ground is a powerful spell in which a person becomes terrified of losing his life thus summons extra stamina, extra strength, more focused, becoming disciplined without being disciplined, faster cognition similar to the effects of mild anxiety but more potent in terms of survival.

Induce this spell to your army and before you know it Mexico is born.
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